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Re: High volume gas production at 12,6 Volts and 10mA !
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2006, 11:47:12 AM »
Hi!
I'm a relatively nem member, and i like to share the results of my experiments.
I observed a very interesting effect, during my research of a Meyer-like device.
I used quality distilled water. Normally it's not conductive. With high voltages, and special conditions, it produces very interesting things.
When I put high voltage to the water, with a thick electrode (a leg of a HV diode) a water can be pulled out from the surface, like a "gum"
I think it caused by special flows, generated by a magnetic and electric field.
http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/huzaseffekt/MVI_3358.AVI
http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/huzaseffekt/IMG_3357k.jpg
A generator is an overdrived flyback-transformer, about 100 W, at about 27KHz. Freq is not critical. (tune to the flyback's self res.)
The Meyer-effect replicated also, but not in resonance. There have less efficiency, it generates too much heat.
Its driven by a push-pull inverter, that generates 600V, at 42,8KHz (i observed a freq is not important in this setup... sorry)
A voltage rectified by a string of UF4007 diodes (6 pcs in series) and after two flybacks's secondary attached boths side of the cell.
That's like the normal Meyer circuit.
And the trick:
An electrodes need to be very closer! (and if possible, placed in an "edge" form) Without it, cell doesn't produce any gas. Interesting. Isn't it?
The plates haven't enough capacitance to creates resonance. But with wider surface, resistive losses damatically increases, that cause the heating of water.
http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/meyer/MVI_3364.AVI
http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/meyer/MVI_3365.AVI
http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/meyer/MVI_3368.AVI
http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/meyer/MVI_3369.AVI
(on the last video one of the flyback-based inductor can be seen)
The third experiment was egaspower. (It's posted on a forum on yahoo?)
A few hundred uF elko charged t0 300V, was discharged underwater. It's a little bit difficult, because resistive losses discharges the capacitor, and causes heating. It needs an insulated electrodes, with VERY small free conductive part. I cut a stripe from a normal house wire. The arc formed between two free wire-ends.
It needs a trigger circuit at least 6 KV. Expample an ingition transformer. i use 6V type, drive from 12V. It makes enough trigger energy.
The problem are diodes. Very high current and high voltage types are recommended. I burned ot some MW oven diodes.
The original circuit:
http://www.hvlabs.hu/tmp/engine1.gif
My setup:
http://www.hvlabs.hu/tmp/egaspower1.jpg
http://www.hvlabs.hu/tmp/egaspower1.avi
http://www.hvlabs.hu/tmp/egaspower2.avi
http://www.hvlabs.hu/tmp/egaspower3.avi
http://www.hvlabs.hu/tmp/egaspower4.avi
The result: It generates very strong shock waves (the plastic jar jumping) In the first experiment, a glass jar was blown out.... You can easily blow out beer glass (first drink the beer! Smiley ) Unfortunately a gadget doesn't generate hidrogen. I think the hidrogen burns out immediately.
Maybe If you put some comprimed water steam into a cylinder, you would generate a shock wave in the cylinder, converting this energy into a usable form. The original plan uses egaspower circuit to firing a mixture of gasoline/water. I like only use water. But It needs more energy.
And finally the plasma electrlolisis project:
The same supply used in the previous experiment (rectified 230V AC+elko)
A Wolfram weldin electrode (4mm thick) can be placed into a sodabicarbone (sodium-hydrogen-carbonate) solution. Te arg generates VERY much heat, but I can't measure it. A strong plasma easily melts wolfram, or other. With carbon rod, you can generate a HIGH amount of generator gas (H2+CO) but it's not an overunity trick, because a carbon rod grows thinner. (forming CO, catches the O2 part of the water)
http://www.hvlabs.hu/tmp/plasma_electrolisis.avi
That's all for today. Huh.
Good work!
Ros-Co.
http://www.hvlabs.hu
(warning! It's only avaiable on martian's language! Smiley )
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